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« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2010, 03:00:41 PM » |
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« Reply #41 on: February 24, 2010, 03:45:34 PM » |
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so what is the best 125cc bike to get? cbf? cbr? yzf-r125?
That's like asking how long is a piece of string. Depends what you want out of it. Or more to the point, depends what style you want. Personally, I wouldn't touch a 2 stroke with a stolen arse, but Chan likes them for some twisted reason. I'm also not a big sports bike fan either. Generally speaking, almost any big manufacturer (Honda, Yam etc) 4 stroke 125cc bike will be around 14bhp, and will be pretty reliable. Aside from that, pick a style you like, or as in my case, I went for the Varadero because of my size. If you're 9 stone, I guess you're not too big either, so you'll fit on pretty much any of them. |
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« Reply #42 on: February 24, 2010, 03:52:26 PM » |
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That's like asking how long is a piece of string. Depends what you want out of it. Or more to the point, depends what style you want. Personally, I wouldn't touch a 2 stroke with a stolen arse, but Chan likes them for some twisted reason. I'm also not a big sports bike fan either. Generally speaking, almost any big manufacturer (Honda, Yam etc) 4 stroke 125cc bike will be around 14bhp, and will be pretty reliable. Aside from that, pick a style you like, or as in my case, I went for the Varadero because of my size. If you're 9 stone, I guess you're not too big either, so you'll fit on pretty much any of them.
i love powerbands.... it proves you have some skill if you can keep a bike in it... especially on my stupid aprillia where the powerband if 8000-10000rpm and a gnats fart on either side |
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« Reply #43 on: February 24, 2010, 03:56:49 PM » |
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i love powerbands.... it proves you have some skill if you can keep a bike in it... especially on my stupid aprillia where the powerband if 8000-10000rpm and a gnats fart on either side
You see, I'd prefer a bike that worked, and delivered something useful across the whole rev-range. I have no need to prove my skill to anyone. |
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« Reply #44 on: February 24, 2010, 03:58:04 PM » |
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neither do i but i still enjoy the thrill of not dying everytime i step off my aprillia!
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« Reply #45 on: February 24, 2010, 04:16:20 PM » |
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would i be able to restict say a cbr600? then if it "comes off in a service without me knwing in that two years" im set right aslong as i dont get caught? but also i think people who havent passed their test should also be able to do bike safe etc i got a wuyang 125-16c  but now its dead o____o from quite a serious accedent just after xmas Mate, seriously. If you had an accident on a 125, what do you think are the chances of having an accident on a CBR600 or GSXR600 where a 'restrictor' would 'miraculously' disappear shortly after installing it? I had a mate who was waiting when he can actually ride the 'big bikes' he was saving every penny. He finally could so he bought a GSXR750. I think he crashed it in 3 months. He spent about 8k on it and a moment later it was gone. Maybe I'm different but whenever I was buying a bigger motorbike I was scared to ride it. but what do I know, I never went past 600 cc. |
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« Reply #46 on: February 24, 2010, 04:26:27 PM » |
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Mate, seriously. If you had an accident on a 125, what do you think are the chances of having an accident on a CBR600 or GSXR600 where a 'restrictor' would 'miraculously' disappear shortly after installing it?
I had a mate who was waiting when he can actually ride the 'big bikes' he was saving every penny. He finally could so he bought a GSXR750. I think he crashed it in 3 months. He spent about 8k on it and a moment later it was gone.
Maybe I'm different but whenever I was buying a bigger motorbike I was scared to ride it. but what do I know, I never went past 600 cc.
I think it is worth stepping up gradually. I started off on a 14bhp 125cc, went to a 15bhp one, then got an ex-army Harley that was 19.5bhp (350cc), now on a 500cc Honda with 56bhp. Eventually I will step up again to something bigger, but at the moment I have all the power I need for riding in London, and a bike that is utterly capable, without being ridiculous. I know if I had gone from a CG125 to a Ducati 916, I'd be dead by now. |
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« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2010, 04:35:13 PM » |
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i dunno it depends how you adapt... my first bike was a cub and the second was a ex race nsr-500 with no mirrors no lights no plates and no starter!
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« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2010, 07:40:53 PM » |
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Everyone is different and every bike is different.
I got my TW because it was 500 quid and we knew someone nearby we trusted to test ride it for us (and as it turned out, buy it too!) - it had big tyres, stable platform and was quite forgiving. It was also reliable and easy to source parts when neccesary cos it was one of the big manufacturers.
When my licence became unrestricted (2 years) I got a yamaha diversion - again because it was cheap reccomended as a first big bike and 'big brand'. It's very forgiving, nicely powerful at 61bhp, and comfortable. My old housemate would hate it, he hated the TW, just because it wasn't the riding position he likes. Each to their own!
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« Reply #49 on: February 24, 2010, 11:28:36 PM » |
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Mate, seriously. If you had an accident on a 125, what do you think are the chances of having an accident on a CBR600 or GSXR600 where a 'restrictor' would 'miraculously' disappear shortly after installing it?
I had a mate who was waiting when he can actually ride the 'big bikes' he was saving every penny. He finally could so he bought a GSXR750. I think he crashed it in 3 months. He spent about 8k on it and a moment later it was gone.
Maybe I'm different but whenever I was buying a bigger motorbike I was scared to ride it. but what do I know, I never went past 600 cc.
tbh it the accedent wasnt my fault i was a set of traffic lights and some mong in a nova didnt see me and ran up my arse |
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« Reply #50 on: February 25, 2010, 12:29:17 AM » |
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should get it fixed of his Insurance then, although depending on how much damage was done they may just write it off.
The reason 125s tend to cost more is purely a demand thing though, because a lot of people are capped to a 125 there is a strong demand for them. In terms of what people need to do to get out unsupervised on a bike compared to a car I have to be honest I think the CBT is a bit of a joke. Before I went to do mine a friend said to me "if you fail the CBT then you want to re-think the whole bike idea". Shockingly I have heard of people failing it in fact one of the guys on my CBT was doing his second attempt (glad he mentioned that before I quoted my friend to him). To get on the road unsupervised in a car takes a lot more effort (I'm going through it at the moment).
I believe there are actually separate grades for cars/vans now however unlike bike where it's done based on engine size and power the car is purely off weight. So your basic car test lets you take out anything up to 3500Kg. If you want to drive something larger you don't just get it bundled in any more you have to sit a separate test.
On to what you should do though, If you buy a large sports bike and restrict it your insurance is still not going to be fun, you won't have access to the power, you'll still be paying top dollar for maintenance, being restricted doesn't make parts & tyres any cheaper. As such if I were you I'd take a look at a 250 Ninja. Running cost will be a lot less, no need to restrict so if you buy one new you don't need to MOT for 3 years (if you restrict a new bike you need to get MOTs done every year from off), it's still going to be a lot of fun for you and as you haven't had to restrict it the power band is going to be there as the engineers who built it intended as the big bikes are designed to be ridden as they are specified and restriction is really just done as an after thought so the power won't be as smooth/progressive if you go down the restriction route. Also for what it will cost you to trade up in 2 years you are likely to have saved that on insurance, parts & maintenance.
just my thoughts.
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« Reply #51 on: March 03, 2010, 01:41:00 AM » |
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thanks dave  i would but after he hit me he legged it and hasnt been seen since -___- police have been notified etc but yeh tbh all i want as the summer is getting close is something to ride xD cars are boring in the summer In my opinion. but thanks to all you guys been a great help |
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