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nutsville
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Will the MET police investigate?
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February 16, 2010, 08:49:05 AM »
Have a read of this
http://nutsville.com/?p=1696
Now we need to see if the police will investigate, or will this be another thing that the authorities will try to brush under the carpet.
Will the media mention it.
Time to get the pop corn out.
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ldn1702
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February 16, 2010, 09:05:44 AM »
Quote from: nutsville on February 16, 2010, 08:49:05 AM
Have a read of this
http://nutsville.com/?p=1696
Now we need to see if the police will investigate, or will this be another thing that the authorities will try to brush under the carpet.
Will the media mention it.
Time to get the pop corn out.
Absolutely brilliant job... I just couldn't believe what I was reading...
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February 16, 2010, 09:21:16 AM »
Sadly, I could believe every word.
If anyone has/will write to their MP, would they mind putting a copy up for me to get an idea of wording etc? I won't copy it, but I've never written to an MP before, and would like ideas about how to phrase things. I have a Lib Dem MP here - Sarah Tether - and her office is so close I could even drop a letter through her door. I just don't know how to start it...
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February 16, 2010, 09:23:11 AM »
Wow, job well done. Now then, how many journalists do we all know?
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February 16, 2010, 09:52:57 AM »
This really goes to show the hard work and dedication ( and risks being taken) by Warren and the comittee. We sit here and discuss what to do next and do the odd demo whilst these guys are actually doing it for us. Hats off to you and thank you for all the hard work, you really are leading the way. Letter to my MP will be written today. Plus a second donation to the fighting fund has been made. Come everyone show Warren the money!!!!
p.s. looks like I am going to have some spare mornings in March so lets get those flash demos organised.
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Quote from: templar on February 16, 2010, 09:21:16 AM
Sadly, I could believe every word.
If anyone has/will write to their MP, would they mind putting a copy up for me to get an idea of wording etc? I won't copy it, but I've never written to an MP before, and would like ideas about how to phrase things. I just don't know how to start it...
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It's getting so complicated I can't keep up. I've lost track of which investigation, by whom, is being levelled at WCC for which alleged offence.
It's like we're being led along the myriad paths of Westminster's dense Forest of Obfuscation by the leading lights of NTBPT but the people at the back can't see what's going on and are struggling to keep up.
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February 16, 2010, 10:28:22 AM »
Quote from: templar on February 16, 2010, 09:21:16 AM
Sadly, I could believe every word.
If anyone has/will write to their MP, would they mind putting a copy up for me to get an idea of wording etc? I won't copy it, but I've never written to an MP before, and would like ideas about how to phrase things. I have a Lib Dem MP here - Sarah Tether - and her office is so close I could even drop a letter through her door. I just don't know how to start it...
It might be quicker and easier just to drop in to her surgery and take a print out the the nutsville article for her to read.
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February 16, 2010, 10:59:42 AM »
Never mind the MET (which I know is where we have to start) the big issue is: Will the Fraud Office investigate claims of dodgy doings re parking contracts that have nationwide implications?
Working on new blog to explore this and find that the question is already being raised out there!
Well done all concerned!!!! West
http://is.gd/8uvHf
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February 16, 2010, 11:20:01 AM »
Yeah, there is a lot going on right now, but as some will remember, this is nothing that Westminster hasn't seen before
The call for a police investigation is sort of incidental to the main object for us which is to get this tax scrapped. But because of the bike tax, research just happened to uncover this little skeleton. Peter Large went and stuck a big red flashing light on it when he refused to answer questions about the contract in a timely manner, thus implicating himself. So taking the advice of the district auditor Warren had to do his civic duty and report his concerns to the police.
If the police do investigate, at the very least both Large and Gilchrist will have to be suspended, which is a bit awkward with an impending court case.
I don't think anyone can be sure that the police will investigate, because to find that westminsters parking department has been issuing invalid tickets all this time would cost WCC a lot of money. When such vast sums of money are involved, which is technically taxpayers money the excuse of 'it's not in the taxpayers interest' is trotted out. Hence making a song and dance about this issue, it's our money and we expect the authorities to come clean on our behalf.
NSL fooled many other councils into novating the contract over to them, so boroughs like RBK&C and Camden should be a little bit worried.
Some people have given up a lot of their time writing all those documents, going through all the re-writes and nothing at all to do with Nutsville. But blimey yes, with all that's gong on it can be hard to follow it all, however it's nice to know that Westminster Council are kept very very busy by a protest group they said would give up after a few months.
They must at some point ask themselves if their precious bike tax was worth it, because the NoTo campaigners never let things drop.
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February 16, 2010, 12:48:36 PM »
Is this the campaign's case, i.e. the one for which the fighting fund will be used or is it just a side one and the main case has yet to come?
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Quote from: ldn1702 on February 16, 2010, 12:48:36 PM
Is this the campaign's case, i.e. the one for which the fighting fund will be used or is it just a side one and the main case has yet to come?
Absolutely nothing to do with the main case (save giving insight to the Court of the character of the individuals), and certainly nothing that will use a single penny of the fighting fund.
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February 16, 2010, 01:04:15 PM »
For Information only, here is a copy of the email that was sent to WCC this morning
To:- Westminster City Council Chief Executive, Mr Mike More & Council Leader, Mr Colin Barrow
Offences under the Fraud Act & Gross Misconduct in Public Office
It is my duty to inform you that the above complaint (pdf copy attached) against 2 WCC Officers, namely Mr ********* & Mr ******** has been filed with the Metropolitan Police, and allotted the crime number 6507270/10.
Having been advised of this civic duty by the District Auditor several months ago, and leaving aside the question marks surrounding whether a Deed of Novation would satisfy the EU regulations pertaining to the transfer of Public Works Contracts from one economic operator to another, I have patiently waited for Mr ****** to firstly provide the barest minimum of evidence to qualify his own explanations. The seriousness cannot be more highlighted by his reluctance to disclose the minutes from the 2 supposed DCB meetings of August 07 & February 08, and his inability to explain how an entry was made in the Forward Plan of Decisions Sep - Dec 07 stating that Cllr Chalkley need novate these contracts, only for Mr ******* to claim that "NO-ONE" appreciated this to be the case when asked why Mr ********* was allowed to do the same without any delegated power.
More crucially however, it was Mr ******* failure to make good on his own suggestions of remedial action by way of:-
1) the preparation of a full report to Cllr Chalkley
2) A statement of decision from Cllr Chalkley confirming his ratifying the Deed of Novation
3) The presentation of a full report to Cabinet.
I have seen no evidence of either of the first two, and have had it confirmed that several full Cabinet meetings have been held since at which no mention has been made of the extremely serious situation, and hence had no other course of action other than to bring this matter to the attention of the Police.
You will note that a major element of the complaint alleges document fabrication, and thus, unless evidence of the above can be shown to be by end of business today, it would be reasonable to assume it does not exist.
Finally, I trust you can be relied upon to institute the appropriate measures against these individuals to ensure that no other related documents are fabricated or compromised until the Police confirm that they are satisfied that there is no further action required, if only to preserve the Council's integrity.
For information sake, I attach a copy of an email confirming that the Economic Crime Unit of the Northumbria Police are investigating similar allegations against officers of Sunderland Council.
Please note, should you be able to provide, in a timely manner, categoric proof that the above allegations are groundless, I will unreservedly withdraw my complaint immediately
Yours
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February 16, 2010, 01:06:37 PM »
They must start to seriously regret to have introduced a bike parking tax. All this dirty stuff wouldn't have come up so easily if WCC had left motorcyclists alone and respect their choice of using a mode of transport that is faster, more efficient, greener, cheaper and non-congesting. They just got it all wrong from the start and I seriously think that they will learn the lesson which is to never ever piss off bikers in future, whoever they are, wherever they're from and whatever bike they ride.
All this is purely due to Westminster's ego as they didn't want to lose face and admit their mistake by scrapping the tax during or at the end of its experiment. This is an even bigger mistake than have introduced the tax in the first place.
Bikers are one of the most united groups one can possibly imagine, there is a lot of solidarity between motorcyclists internationally. If you look at this campaign, how many nationalities are represented? I've heard all sorts of languages spoken during demos, this gives an idea of how supportive bikers are to each other and how far they are willing to go to protect the freedom they have always had, until WCC dared to attack such freedom.
Well done to the committee, Nutsville, and all the people who have worked so hard on behalf of all the bikers. Thanks to your hard work, we can be confident that this tax will never cross the English Channel, the North sea or the Irish sea and it will be dead sooner rather than later!
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February 16, 2010, 01:07:17 PM »
If the Chairman is so prepared to fulfil his "civic duty", then I say that it is every bikers' civic duty to comply with the Nutsville suggestion in writing to their MP, but more crucially....
...this must be taken to every Media contact that anyone from this campaign has ever had!!!
Together we can make sure that the Media force a proper Police Investigation
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Quote from: chairman on February 16, 2010, 12:59:43 PM
Absolutely nothing to do with the main case (save giving insight to the Court of the character of the individuals), and certainly nothing that will use a single penny of the fighting fund.
Oh so there's more to come, JOY JOY JOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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February 16, 2010, 05:14:33 PM »
Great stuff, I really hope they get what they deserve :@
I think when this is all over we should organise a giant pissup/BBQ to say thanks for all the hard work!
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February 16, 2010, 05:22:24 PM »
BBC London are covering this story tonight.
Although it was not on lunch time news, I am told it will be tonight either the 6:30pm news or 10:25pm one, but as the 6:30 show is longer most likely on there I would guess. Providing there isn't a plane crash or some other event.
Attempts will be made to press record on the old Betamax.
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Quote from: torytax on February 16, 2010, 05:22:24 PM
BBC London are covering this story tonight.
Although it was not on lunch time news, I am told it will be tonight either the 6:30pm news or 10:25pm one, but as the 6:30 show is longer most likely on there I would guess. Providing there isn't a plane crash or some other event.
Attempts will be made to press record on the old Betamax.
Please will you be able to post the You Tube extract?
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February 16, 2010, 05:35:55 PM »
Yeah, Nuts said she would do it
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February 16, 2010, 06:04:35 PM »
I have just used
www.writetothem.com
to send the following to my MP - OK, so it is Andrew MacKay and he is not up for re-election as his hands are dirtier than most, but will let you know what he replies
Dear Andrew MacKay,
I have just read a website detailing a Fraud Office investigation in to Westminster City Council - the full details are at
http://nutsville.com/?p=1696
Given the recent uproar over MPs expenses, I am flabbergasted to hear that now the councils (particularly WCC) are being investigated for fraudulent activity
I would like to know what action you will be taking, as my MP, to ensure a thorough investigation in to these allegations takes place
It is imperative that we, as tax payers, can trust our elected officials to be squeaky clean and to be spending OUR taxes cautiously and within the law, especially in these fraught financial times
Thank you for you time and I look forward to your prompt response
Yours sincerely,
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